Article: 1711 of rec.games.chess.analysis
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From: dregis@exeter.ac.uk (David Regis=)
Subject: Re: 1. P-Q4 (1. d4) Do you like Dutch?
Message-ID: <DLsGLC.Bxt@exeter.ac.uk>
Organization: University of Exeter, UK.
References: <1996Jan24.025359.45200@ac.dal.ca>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:41:36 GMT

In article <1996Jan24.025359.45200@ac.dal.ca> jphamm@ac.dal.ca writes:
>Hi,
>	Ok, I'm a 1. P-K4 player (that's 1. e4 for those who understand
>the algebraic system).  I play it as White, and I like meeting it as 
>Black (and again I reply 1. ... P-K4; or 1. ... e5).  So, being a double
>King's Pawn player, I was wondering how Queen's Pawn Players (1. P-Q4
>or 1. d4) react when the meet the Dutch? (1. ... P-KB4 or ...f5?)  I don't mean
>"What is your reply?", I'm asking more, does it upset you?  
[...]

I like to play it and I like to play against it!  But I think Black
has got more chance of getting a good King's-side attack out of the
King's Indian. 

The trouble with playing the Dutch is (a) White can see you coming
and (b) structurally it's not so good (that poor B on QB1/c8...).

As White I often adopt a restrained posture, inviting ...P-K4/e5 and I
usually have a good time belting down the Queen's-side and centre, and
exploiting the looseness of the Black King's position. 

I think if Black keeps the centre quiet there are good chances of 
getting at the King.

White players locally though seem to be more happy playing one of the
Anti-Dutch systems without P-QB4/c4, going for systems with moves like
N-QB3/c3, B-KN5/g5, P-K4/e4, Q-Q3/d3, P-KN4/g4, maybe castling long.
I think these positions are often no fun at all for Black. 

>Anyway, I'm hoping that this will stimulate a discussion on whether or
>not the Dutch Defense is a good way to deal with the 1. P-Q4 (d4) 
>players?

Depends on the level and the player:

1. Some people play P-Q4/d4 with a view to attacking your King, in which
case I think it's good, because the strongest lines against the Dutch
don't usually give them the sort of game they like.

2. Some like playing quietly for a structural edge, in which case you're
just playing into their hands. 

3. But if they are positional but not too hot a player, I think the
Dutch can be very powerful - once you have the initiative you're in. 

(I probably qualify under both the last two!)


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From info!dregis Fri Jan 26 14:00:19 GMT 1996